Radio button, blue halo

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TJ Hanson

2016-10-07 15:16:02 UTC

I’m getting a blue halo around one of my radio buttons when my app first launches. This is on the initial window (main menu). When a menu item is selected; and then I go back to the main menu, the blue halo is gone.

Blue halo appears on the same radio button (doesn’t move to another radio button), and it is always there at initial launch.

Can’t find anything in documentation or nug history about this. Anyone else experience this? I’d rather not rebuild the entire radio button array if there is a simple solution.

Thanks, TJ

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TJ Hanson

2016-10-07 18:01:39 UTC

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Could this be some type of marker that Xojo put in? Something associated with debugging that control?

TJ

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I’m getting a blue halo around one of my radio buttons when my app first launches. This is on the initial window (main menu). When a menu item is selected; and then I go back to the main menu, the blue halo is gone.
Blue halo appears on the same radio button (doesn’t move to another radio button), and it is always there at initial launch.
Can’t find anything in documentation or nug history about this. Anyone else experience this? I’d rather not rebuild the entire radio button array if there is a simple solution.
Thanks, TJ
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Thomas Moore

2016-10-07 18:18:30 UTC

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Is it possible that the radio button is getting the focus somehow? Also, what systems are you building/debugging on?

Best wishes, Tom

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TJ Hanson

2016-10-07 19:15:55 UTC

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Your suggestion of focus got me to look at the tab stops. Tab stops were turned off for all radio buttons except the blue halo one. So that was the problem. I turned the tab stop off and the blue halo went away.

Thanks for the help, TJ

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Is it possible that the radio button is getting the focus somehow? Also, what systems are you building/debugging on?
Best wishes, Tom

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Could this be some type of marker that Xojo put in? Something associated with debugging that control?
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emile.a.schwarz

2016-10-08 05:32:36 UTC

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What happens if you press the Tab key (once, twice, thrice) ?

If that "halo" is set to another Control, it is your fault / Apple's OS X "bug".

More explanation if this is the case.

Emile

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Tim Jones

2016-10-08 07:20:30 UTC

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You have Full Keyboard Access turned on.

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Emile Schwarz

2016-10-08 07:27:30 UTC

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Do you know how to (really) disable it (turn it OFF) ?

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You have Full Keyboard Access turned on.

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Tim Jones

2016-10-09 05:28:05 UTC

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System Preferences
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Full keyboard access -> Text Boxes and lists only

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Do you know how to (really) disable it (turn it OFF) ?
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You have Full Keyboard Access turned on.
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emile.a.schwarz

2016-10-09 07:38:17 UTC

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Hi Tim,

first of all, do not activate this because you will not be able to disable it.

Secondly: the very day I've made the error to activate this function, I wanted to desactivate it doing what you wrote, but this does not works at all.

By “this does not works at all” I mean: it orks for the current session, but it comes back after a reboot.

Worst: I have an ElGato Diversity TNT (DVT) USB Key. The software (EyeTV) active this when a TV window opens and close it (as temporary as I wrote above) at quit time.

Thank you for trying to help.

Emile

PS: this is problematic for example when you open in the Finder a Get Info window and want to access the Comments field of this window; you have to shift-tab 3 times more… and I do not talk about search and replace within TextEdit…

Else: I do not care if it does not impact my living with my MacBook Pro !

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Bernd Fröhlich

2016-10-09 10:05:52 UTC

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Post by emile.a.schwarz
first of all, do not activate this because you will not be able to disable it.

Secondly: the very day I've made the error to activate this function, I wanted to desactivate it doing what you wrote, but this does not works at all.

By “this does not works at all” I mean: it orks for the current session, but it comes back after a reboot.

Worst: I have an ElGato Diversity TNT (DVT) USB Key. The software (EyeTV) active this when a TV window opens and close it (as temporary as I wrote above) at quit time.

Thank you for trying to help.

That does not sound like a finder bug but a bug in EyeTV.
If a setting does not "stick" the corresponding preferences file is either write protected or changed again by another program.
Could you test on another computer that has no EyeTV installed?

Greetings from Germany,
Bernd Fröhlich

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Emile Schwarz

2016-10-09 14:03:36 UTC

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One more thank for trying to help.
The base of the bug is in OS X.
That said, EyeTV (software) set this ON when it open the TV window at the moment the window is filled with black just before it displays the TV.
Side note: some software (and Hardwre) companies do not talk about bug even when you display it in front of their nose. ElGato provide (THC) a software to run on WIndows.
because I live near the German border (less than 3 km), I receive annTNT French channels (around 30) and all available German channels. On that Terratec Home Cinema (THC), I have to press in the remote a channel number <> than the one I press in my Mac with EyeTV. For example, pressing 22 send me to channel 18.
I explained to them with far more / better words and images, but they do not understand (or pretend they do not understand) that the "renumber" feature available on EyeTV is missing in THC (they have the sources of both software).This bug existed before the German Company sold the TNT (DVT) to the Chineese company: they do not "understand" too.
Nota: the engineer(s) made a simple change in EyeTV: now it set back to OFF (it set it to ON at run time on a prior version; version prior my bug report).
Who says that life is easy ?
Emile

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Could you test on another computer that has no EyeTV installed?

No, I cannot: I have to have an external Monitor _AND_ another computer who does not have set this Feature ON.
I nearly forgot: even when I boot on Recovery, I see that ON… I also saw a screen shot on a OS X Book (I forgot the title).
And: the OS X bug reside in the fact it is impossible to desactivate that feature (or I do not know how to desactivate permanently that feature).
Permission ? Why not, but I am not in charge of the permissions (I do not know where the file where the permissions have to be checked is and its name…)
Last: when someone told me about an error (a bug), etc. I am happy because I will certainly be able to remove it. This is not the case for everybody. I've made that experience (and I reported the error correctly, IMHO)
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Post by Bernd FrÃ¶hlich
first of all, do not activate this because you will not be able to disable it.

Secondly: the very day I've made the error to activate this function, I wanted to desactivate it doing what you wrote, but this does not works at all.

By “this does not works at all” I mean: it orks for the current session, but it comes back after a reboot.

Worst: I have an ElGato Diversity TNT (DVT) USB Key. The software (EyeTV) active this when a TV window opens and close it (as temporary as I wrote above) at quit time.

Thank you for trying to help.