Discussion:
Accented characters
Daniel Drijard
2017-02-25 19:08:37 UTC
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Markus,

You directed me to "Encodings". This is fine for general education
but does not help to solve my problem. If I understood properly (or
guessed), the file I get from my mailing system (Eudora) should have
received a specific treatment by the sender to be properly
understood. Such a treatment cannot depend on my mailing system,
because unknown from the sender. If not too stupid, it should have
some flexibility (... though there are some softwares too stupid for
this facility).
I can guess various possibilities that would be smart but this is
not going to be useful !
Is this situation definitely hopeless ?

Evidently, I can survive because I can guess by what accented
letter the "?" characters should be replaced in the text. Simply I
find this situation miserable if it cannot be cured. After using
computers for 50 years (in Particles Physics), I did not think such a
blunder would still exist.

You have certainly no responsibility in this. I suspect XOJO
people could do something if the Internet message I get has some
useful information about its format (it sure has, but what!).
Possibly, I could script something if I knew the details of the file
parameters but this might be too difficult for me.

Cordially
Daniel
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Metsis
2017-02-27 13:21:54 UTC
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Post by Daniel Drijard
You directed me to "Encodings". This is fine for general education
but does not help to solve my problem. If I understood properly (or
guessed), the file I get from my mailing system (Eudora) should have
received a specific treatment by the sender to be properly understood.
Such a treatment cannot depend on my mailing system, because unknown
from the sender. If not too stupid, it should have some flexibility
(... though there are some softwares too stupid for this facility).
I can guess various possibilities that would be smart but this is
not going to be useful !
Is this situation definitely hopeless ?
Evidently, I can survive because I can guess by what accented
letter the "?" characters should be replaced in the text. Simply I
find this situation miserable if it cannot be cured. After using
computers for 50 years (in Particles Physics), I did not think such a
blunder would still exist.
You have certainly no responsibility in this. I suspect XOJO people
could do something if the Internet message I get has some useful
information about its format (it sure has, but what!). Possibly, I
could script something if I knew the details of the file parameters
but this might be too difficult for me.
Cordially
Daniel
Daniel,

You might want to read

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codage_des_caractères

Quick googling tells me that Eudora has been deadware since 2006 or 2013
if you count the open source edition. Quick googling also reveals one
major flaw in Eudora: no UTF-8 support – except with the help of
third-party plugins. See

http://www.drivehq.com/web/brana/plugins.htm

(I have no idea if it is suitable for you.)

This has been repeated ad nauseam since the turn of the millenium:

If your text contains mainly Chinese, Japanese or some other
pictogrammic writing system (not yet English albeit it's turning to
become a pictogrammic language), use UTF-16 or UTF-32, in (almost) *ALL*
other cases, use UTF-8. All other encodings are for museal use only.,
for pre-millemium electronic texts.

If I understand your problem properly, you have received an email
message that gets displayed wrongly, or its text attachment gets
displayed wrongly. That text is quite possibly UTF-8 encoded. Either get
a plug-in that displays the text correctly (see above), or make the
paintful switch to a newer email client. The later is recommended in the
longer term.

Ex-Eudora user,

Juha "Metsis" Metsäkallas



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